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		<title>The Battle to Align PR and Interactive Marketing</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Greenfield</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Measurement and Monitoring]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Social Media Alignment]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Definition 6]]></category>
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Interactive Marketing and PR:  Star Trek provides a good visual
Today I continue a recent discussion about the challenges in aligning PR and interactive marketing. The battle lines are drawn with the two sides competing for the hearts and minds of clients. 
Consider these two quotes:
The first is from Jonathan Kopp, Global Director, Ketchum Digital.

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">Interactive Marketing and PR:  <a title="Star Trek" href="http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Let_That_Be_Your_Last_Battlefield_(episode)" target="_blank">Star Trek</a> provides a good visual</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Today I continue a recent </span><a title="Discussion" href="http://www.bernaisesource.com/blog/2009/09/social-media-is-pushing-pr-and-interactive-marketing-to-align/" target="_blank">discussion</a><span> about the challenges in aligning PR and interactive marketing. The battle lines are drawn with the two sides competing for the hearts and minds of clients. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Consider these two quotes:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The first is from <span class="il"><span>Jonathan</span></span><span> <span class="il">Kopp</span>, Global Director, </span><a title="Ketchum" href="http://www.ketchum.com/digital" target="_blank">Ketchum Digital</a><span>.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>PR firms are poised to lead the way in social media because they approach conversation influence from an earned media perspective &#8212; finding existing story lines and figuring out how to make their clients&#8217; point relevant. PR firms with a digital development capability can use visual and dynamic storytelling to add a deeper layer of engagement&#8211;digital assets designed specifically for social media engagement.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The second is from Michael Kogon, CEO of <a title="Definition 6" href="http://www.definition6.com/" target="_blank">Definition 6</a>, an interactive marketing firm based in Atlanta.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In the past, PR has typically been responsible for communications with internal and external audiences; developing the communications strategy and leading the execution. For most organizations, interactive marketing includes all the &#8220;online&#8221; marketing stuff. Today, with so much more communication taking place online, it&#8217;s more common to see progressive interactive agencies managing all online communications efforts, particularly around blogging and other social media.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So which side is better equipped to manage a client&#8217;s social media strategy?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I appreciate the battle lines.  Each has a lot at stake.  But I am not taking sides because I believe each has a critical role to play. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The debate reminds me of a famous <a title="Star Trek 2" href="http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Let_That_Be_Your_Last_Battlefield_(episode)" target="_blank">Star Trek episode</a>.  The characters in question were in fact more similar than they realized, but their differences in perception drove them apart. The two characters fought to the end, unable to reconcile differences.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OK a little poetic license, but my point is that interactive marketing and PR are very similar.  They are focused on increasing engagement and use the same tools to get there.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But while their services complement each other &#8211; positioning/branding,  messaging/key words, impressions/click throughs, storytelling/application building &#8211; their strategies and success metrics are very different.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As a result, we create great tools that don&#8217;t necessarily extend PR&#8217;s finely crafted messages.  At the same time, the messages PR creates don&#8217;t always evolve to reflect the way users search for information. And we tend to overestimate PR results and underestimate interactive marketing&#8217;s. Our individual clients may be happy, but an overall social media strategy may suffer.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And so the larger question for me is not who wins the battle, but how do we tap the talents of both sides to align marketing and PR objectives?  How do you create a strategy that incorporates key words and messaging, click throughs and impressions and storytelling and technology?  My next post begins to take on these questions.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the end we may need to reframe the debate and demonstrate how PR and marketing and are extensions of one another, not opposites and not independent of each other.</p>
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		<title>PR Camp Atlanta Hopes to Bridge Generations and PR and Interactive Marketing Fields</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Greenfield</dc:creator>
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Managing generational differences in social media will be one of three featured topics at PR Camp Atlanta this Friday, August 21. In what may be one of the more lively discussions of the morning, representatives of Generation Y will pair off with their Generation X and Baby Boomer counterparts to understand how professionals [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Managing generational differences in social media will be one of three featured topics at PR Camp Atlanta this Friday, August 21. In what may be one of the more lively discussions of the morning, representatives of Generation Y will pair off with their Generation X and Baby Boomer counterparts to understand how professionals at different levels are approaching their jobs.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">It’s all part of the PR Camp Atlanta&#8217;s goal to immerse Atlanta’s PR and marketing community in all things social media.</span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">  We </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">will avoid discussions on how to use the latest tools.</span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> There will be no formal presentations.  </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Instead the focus will be on helping professionals identify business opportunities, tap resources, and measure success.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">In many ways, planned discussions at PR Camp Atlanta parallel the changing roles and responsibilities that are taking place in the workplace.</span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">  </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Increasingly social media is allowing Generation Y to assume leadership roles.</span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">  </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">It’s also allowing PR and interactive marketing professionals to work more closely to manage reputations, build relationships and extend brands.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">PR Camp Atlanta is a forum to examine social media’s impact on our profession. </span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Changes in our industry are also the reason why I reached out to <a title="Definition6" href="www.definition6.com" target="_blank">Definition 6</a></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, </span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">an independent interactive marketing and eCommerce agency</span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, to be a sponsor.</span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">  </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">I want to break down barriers and encourage the PR profession to look at what we do differently.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">As <a title="Michael Kogon" href="http://twitter.com/mkogon" target="_blank">Michael Kogon</a> at Definition 6 said, “As we work to help clients adapt to the new challenges and opportunities, created through social media, hands-on experience using these communication platforms is mandatory at all levels. Events like PR Camp Atlanta are a great way for professionals to get started with social media; it also provides them with a great opportunity to meet other professionals in the physical world.”</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Final Agenda</strong></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Session I: 9:00 AM &#8211; 9:55 AM</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Get clients and bosses to extend their interest in new media.</span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Melanie Babcock</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Senior Vice President,      Digital Strategy &amp; Services, Manning Selvage &amp; Lee</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Bert Dumars</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Vice President E-Business      &amp; Interactive Marketing, Newell Rubbermaid</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Jenny Schmitt</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, President and Director of      Client Strategy, CloudSpark</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Katie Mingo</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Senior Marketing      Associate, Delta Airlines</span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Session II:  10:00 AM &#8211; 10:55 AM</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Help senior professionals tap the social media experience of junior colleagues.</span></span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Nick Ayres</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Interactive Marketing      Manager, New Media + Content, The Home Depot/</span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Corvida Raven</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Author of SheGeeks.net</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Marilynn Mobley</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Senior Vice President,      Strategic Counsel, Edelman PR/</span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Matt Epstein</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Account Coordinator,      Definition 6</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Shirley Powell</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Senior Vice President,      Corporate Communications, Turner Broadcasting System/</span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Tolu      Ogbechie</strong></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, </span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Social      Media &amp; Development Associate, </span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Prevent Blindness Georgia</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Carol Flammer</strong></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">,</span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> Managing      Partner, mRELEVANCE, LLC/</span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> </span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Lauren Culbertson</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">,</span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> </span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Communications Assistant for U.S. Senator Johnny Isakson</span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Session III:  11:00 AM &#8211; 12:00 PM</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">With the blurring of PR and marketing, determine the best ways to measure success.</span></span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Peter Fasano</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Principal/Lead      Catalyst, mass+logic</span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Christopher Jones</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Digital      Strategist, Ketchum PR </span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Irfan Kamal</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Vice President, Digital      Strategy, Ogilvy Public Relations </span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>Debbie Curtis-Magley</strong></span></span><span><span style="font-weight: normal;">, Public Relations      Manager, UPS</span></span></li>
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<p style="text-align: center;"> </p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Sponsors</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><span> <img class="size-medium wp-image-3118 aligncenter" title="logos" src="http://www.bernaisesource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/logos-400x393.jpg" alt="logos" width="400" height="393" /></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="Definition 6" href="http://www.definition6.com" target="_blank">Definition 6 </a></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="Neighborhood America" href="http://www.neighborhood.com" target="_blank">Neighborhood America</a> </span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="GTRI" href="http://www.gtri.gatech.edu/" target="_blank">Georgia Tech Research      Institute</a><span> </span></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="PR Newswire" href="http://www.prnewswire.com/" target="_blank">PR Newswire </a></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="Atlanta Day Book" href="http://atlanta.daybooknetwork.com/" target="_blank">Atlanta Day Book</a> </span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="CBS Atlanta" href="http://www.cbsatlanta.com/index.html" target="_blank">CBS Atlanta </a></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="I Send Your Email" href="http://isendyouremail.com/" target="_blank">I Send Your Email </a></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="Social Media Club" href="http://atlanta.socialmediaclub.org/" target="_blank">Social Media Club Atlanta </a></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="Cloudspark" href="http://www.cloudspark.com/" target="_blank">CloudSpark </a></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span><a title="PeachPodStudios" href="http://www.peachpodstudios.com/" target="_blank">Peachpod Studios </a></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Registration is now closed.</span></p>
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