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Based on a previous post on why PR tends to focus on placement over search, I reached out to the following national and Atlanta-based SEO experts for their advice (from left to right, top row first)

In talking to these experts, I wanted their perspective on whether PR has successfully embraced SEO and whether they should.  Here is what they had to say.

Whalen: I don’t think too many PR people truly understand what SEO is and how PR can impact it. In fact, I think PR is so important to any successful SEO campaign that it is my recommended choice as a way of indirectly gaining links for a website (which in turn increases search engine rankings).

Felfoldi: SEO started with technology, and thus technologist were the first to embrace it. PR tends to attract individuals with journalistic backgrounds.  So it makes sense that PR has been slower to adopt SEO as an effective communication channel.

That slower adoption, however, is no longer necessary.  Online publishing tools –such as blogs — are not only inherently compliant with search engine requirements (”search-friendly”), but are actually preferred by search engines over mainstream online channels, such as the corporate website.  In fact, many web developers & marketers are embracing blog platforms as the content management systems powering the websites. Search compliance is now a core part of the tool, rather than an added feature.

Technology aside, PR relies heavily on source/brand credibility — a story in the NY Times is invaluable to spreading a message. SEO does care about source (hence google’s infamous pagerank) but that is just one of many factors that goes into search, & most often not the most important.  In search, content is king.

Finally, PR has an ethic of controlling the message. The problem is a searcher may never search for what PR is communicating. Instead of fighting SEO, PR should embrace it and ensure their message is well saturated in the search engines. Depending on the message, the first result in a search results page can be more effective than a quote on the front-page of a national periodical.

Jarboe: Some PR people are picking up SEO, but they are the exceptions to the rule.  Why aren’t they effectively embracing SEO?  Because they think it’s someone else’s job.  And SEO is someone else’s job — if you are talking about optimizing pages on a website.  But what most SEO specialists aren’t doing is optimizing press releases for news search engines like Google News or Yahoo! News.  And that’s why the opportunity that falls between the cracks.

Now, to be fair, you couldn’t optimize press releases for news search engines before September 2002, when Google News was launched (in beta).  A couple years later, I asked some of the people at Yahoo! News why they included press release distribution services in the 7,000 news sources aggregated by their news search engine.  And they said that for new product launches, a press release was often the only source for a story, because the traditional trade press had imploded.  And daily newspapers have imploded, too.  So, if PR people don’t learn to optimize their press releases for the millions of news search engine users, then it is worth asking who are they writing them for?

Lumpkin: I don’t know that I totally agree with your [my] statement. I know many PR firms that are very forward leaning. The best SEO campaigns need some of the structured relationship building that a PR firm can provide.

Williams: “I’ve been surprised that the public relations industry hasn’t embraced search engine optimization more than they have.  Don’t get me wrong – some PR “early adopters” are certainly utilizing SEO, social media, and other, newer Internet marketing vehicles.  But many folks seem to still be doing PR the same way they always have.  Perhaps SEO pushes them out of their comfort zone – perhaps it seems too technical, or too difficult.  Search engine optimization certainly can get technical and difficult, but it doesn’t have to be, especially when it’s used in conjunction with PR.

Edmonds: While it wasn’t true 5 years ago, search engine optimization is a robust discipline and dialogue between search provider and content producer.  With the increasing connection between the internet and everyday life with web 2.0 and social networking, the potential interplay between PR and SEO is greater now than ever before. “Universal search” provides real time indexing of news and it’s very easy for interested parties to locate a business given a few key words.

Meerman Scott: “The truth is that your potential customers AND reporters are searching for you right now. The days when reporters passively waited for press releases and pitches to figure out what to write are over. Now they find interesting companies to talk up. If you’re not visible in the search engines, you don’t exist — for reporters or your buyers.”

Fabella: We are at a tipping point from never heard of SEO, to heard of it but don’t know what to do, to my boss has heard of it and now to I am actively seeking to understand it.

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The  general consensus seems to support my belief that we PR professionals have a ways to go in establishing a search expertise despite our making some initial progress. It may not be completely our fault, but we may be running out of excuses given where journalism is heading, how technology has evolved and  how people get information online.  And with the advent of Twitter and the growing importance of real time results, the pressure is on to make search a core competency.    Those who fail to embrace SEO not only have the potential of being  left behind;  they are failing to represent their clients’ best interests.

In my next post, these experts discuss how PR can effectively use SEO.

Let me get back to you.


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